Gary Moore moved to Dublin from Belfast wanting to become a musician, and he joined Skid Row which then included Phil Lynott
Moore's almanac
Thursday, May 24, 2007
Guitar great Gary Moore, now 55, left his hometown of Belfast at the age of
16. He tells Peter Robertson how he tried to save Phil Lynott from drugs -
and why Belfast still inspires him
Recent events in Northern Ireland have struck a chord with everybody - even
legendary guitarist Gary Moore who left Belfast at 16. "It was historic
to see Ian Paisley and Gerry Adams sitting down together - who'd have
thought that of those two arch-enemies?" muses Gary, who played a
memorable gig at the city's Waterfront Hall on April 2 and has released his
new album, Close As You Get.
"But it's a bit early to say if there is a real state of peace now.
When we were over there, somebody was going to blow up one of the trains
between Dublin and Belfast because a few people didn't agree with what was
happening.
"We've just got to wait and see. But I don't feel
it's fair for me who's not lived there for so long to start mouthing off
about politics in Belfast. If I lived there, I wouldn't appreciate hearing
someone like me go on about it."
Trouble
One
of five children of a promoter named Bobby and housewife, Winnie, Gary was
born (on April 4, 1952) and brought up in Belfast. But he quit as a teenager
because all was not well in their household. His parents parted a year
later.
"Although there were loads of troubles in our house, I
left Belfast just before The Troubles started," he explains.
Gary went to Dublin wanting to become a musician, and he joined Skid Row
which then included Phil Lynott.
Two and a half years Moore's
senior, Lynott was born in Birmingham, England, the illegitimate son of a
Brazilian father and Irish mother, and at three he was sent to live with his
grandmother in Crumlin, Dublin.
He also started his music career
at 16, and Gary's first impressions are of "a tall skinny cool black
guy. "There weren't a lot of black guys in Dublin then, and Phil stood
out like a sore thumb," he recalls. "People thought he was African
and had come over with the missionaries. It must have been bloody hard for
him being that colour for a start, but he was a strong guy."
Moore and Lynott went on to share a bedsit in Ballsbridge, and Gary
remembers: "He was like a mum, up early every morning cooking
breakfast, and he'd say 'Here, f***ing eat this'. One time he got me to
order something from a Chinese restaurant which he knew I wouldn't like, and
he ate my food. From then on that's how our relationship was - Phil was
pulling things on me and I was falling for them.
"Phil did
like the women. He didn't look upon that as falling for them; he looked at
it as having the time of his life. He made me look like an altar boy - I was
never in his league, I promise you. If anything moved, Phil would be on it
in a shot. You couldn't leave your girlfriend in a room with him. Even if he
knew you were really into this girl, he would be vroom straight in there.
"We once had a big row over a girl, but we never had a physical fight in
our lives. That would never happen. Anyway, he was from a hard area in
Dublin and he was bigger than me."
Skid Row
When Lynott left Skid Row, he formed Thin Lizzy which Gary duly joined ?
three times in between other bands and collaborations.
"Phil
was very much his own person," reckons Gary. "I got to spend a lot
of time with him away from other people over the years, and that's when I
felt we'd get to know each other more. But, having said that, I'd be p****d
and he'd be out of it, so the memories aren't as clear as they should be
which is a shame.
"When Phil got into his 30s, he'd gone
downhill and a lot of his energy had gone from the drugs and the booze. At
that point I wasn't into any of that s**t at all; I was just trying to make
music. But he never wanted me to be into what he was into. I'm sure he
warned me about it. Around the time of Out In The Fields, I knew he was in
trouble.
I'd go round to his house at lunchtime when he'd just got
out of bed and he'd come down with a glass of whiskey in one hand and a
spliff in the other.
"You could tell he wasn't very happy.
But he couldn't admit that he had a problem, or a weakness in any way. It's
the old cliché, but if you don't want to help yourself it's not gonna
happen. But that's what he needed. He wouldn't listen to anybody, but don't
think I didn't try. I spoke to him on various occasions, once when he was in
bed in Brussels and I said, 'Don't you wanna see your kids grow up?' He
said, 'Thanks, yeah', but nothing changed. As far as Phil was concerned, he
could handle anything. But that s**t catches up on everyone. It doesn't
matter who you are - it'll get you in the end." In late December 1985,
Gary and his then wife were visiting her parents in the Canary Islands when
her father delivered some sad news.
Gary recalls: "He'd read a
report in the papers and said to me, 'Your mate's not very well ?'"
Wildman Lynott, who was only 36, was paying the tragic price of excess.
"Phil collapsed on Christmas Day, went into hospital and didn't come out
after that."
Lynott had taken a heroin overdose which put him
in a coma for eight days. He died on January 4, 1986, officially from
'multiple internal abscesses causing blood poisoning leading to kidney,
liver and heart failure'.
Gary shakes his head at the memory. "
It was awful. I couldn't believe it. Even though people had been saying, 'He's
next ? he's gonna go ? ', when it happens, man, whoa forget it. I couldn't
believe I was never gonna see him again.
"It took me a couple
of days to take in what had happened. I'm not one of those people who get
emotional. But I went out for a drink in a bar and they started playing our
songs, and a guy came up to me and said, 'I'm sorry about Phil ? ' I went
home that night, man, and f***ing let rip. It was terrible."
Gary is right. He's not one of those people who get emotional. But he's
extremely likeable and unexpectedly chatty. His appearance has hardly
changed over the decades.
He's always been a denims, T-shirt and
trainers-type, and still has his trademark helmet of dark hair. Occasional
use of the word 'man' completes the old-style rocker picture.
Close
As You Get is Gary's 25th solo album and he's a healthy 55, which makes his
friend's brief existence all the more poignant.
"Phil read
the Jimi Hendrix version of How To Be A Rock Star, and that wasn't a good
thing for him in the end because he kind of bought into all that and he was
a kind of live fast/die young guy.
"I was no angel, but I
didn't get into what Phil got into - you know, the kind of harder drugs and
everything. At that time it wasn't trendy to go into rehab. He'd have
probably been alright now; he'd have been in the f***ing Priory trying to
pull Kate Moss. He'd have loved it in there with all the models. He'd have
got himself a habit just to get in there."
Gary is eternally
grateful for the part Lynott played in helping him achieve success,
particularly as a solo artist through the 1979 hit Parisienne Walkways. Long
hailed as a guitar great, Gary has gone on to work with everyone from Bob
Geldof to Bob Dylan. And he won't hear a word against Geldof. Or Bono, for
that matter.
"There's a lot of cynicism about those guys, but
not many people would do what they've done. When Bob Geldof did the original
Live Aid in the 80s, he effectively killed his music career. The guy gave up
more than he realised - he couldn't get arrested as a musician after that.
But he did so much good at that time, but everyone thought, 'Well, we won't
take him seriously as a singer anymore ? '
"That was it, he
was Saint Bob and he was stuck with that whole thing. Still to this day
that's what people associate him with more than anything he ever did with
The Boomtown Rats or as a solo artist, which is a shame because Bob wrote
some really great songs in his time and he was quite a good bona fide rock
star - he had the moves, the look and everything - and The Boomtown Rats
were a pretty good band.
"Bono is Bono. Bono always likes to
do things on a big level, doesn't he? Even with the band, everything is big.
They've always thought big, and Bono thinks big outside of the band as well.
But the guy has put a helluva lot of time into helping other people, so I
don't know why people get off on knocking him. At the end of the day, it
doesn't matter why they do what they do. People say to Bono, 'What are you
doing up there shaking hands with f***ing George Bush?' and he replies,
'Well, I'd shake hands with the devil if I could get the money for these
people'. It's a practical thing at the end of the day - you either get the
money or you don't."
Gary Moore rattles off rock star stories
as if they were everyday occurrences for everyone.
Squidgy hands
"One night I went round to George Harrison's house and he introduced me
to Bob Dylan. I remember he had soft squidgy little hands, and he had a
nutritionist travelling with him, but he was really shy and hardly said two
words. A few days later George said, 'I wouldn't do it, but Bob wants to
know if you'll be in his band on his next tour ?' I was like 'Oh my God ?'
because I'd heard all these stories about Bob not doing what they'd
rehearsed and changing keys, like he did with Tom Petty. But it was nice to
be asked anyway, as I'm a Dylan fan for sure."
"A few
years ago, I supported Dylan on some Irish dates. That was just like playing
any gigs really as I didn't have much to do with Dylan. At the Odyssey in
Belfast, I tried to walk up the steps at the side of the stage to see who
was in Dylan's band.
Bouncer
"The bouncer
said, 'You're not allowed up there', and that was the end of that. The stage
was quite high and I couldn't really see, so I spent the next 20 minutes
jumping up and down to get glimpses of what was going on."
Gary is touring England from May 24 until June 9. He moved there in 1970
and, despite two spells in the States, has remained there. Five years ago he
bought his present home (a 5-bedroom detached Edwardian house) in Brighton,
Sussex. "I moved there because I'm gay," he jokes, because of
Brighton's label as The Gay Capital Of Europe. His real reason was to be
near his locally-based sons, Jack and Gus, from his marriage which lasted
from 1985 to 1993. He currently lives with his partner of 10 years, an
artist named Jo, and their eight-year old daughter Lily.
So is
this prolific artist inspired by Sussex?
"Not particularly,
no. I got a lot of inspiration when I was in Ireland actually. When I was
just walking around in Belfast, a lot of little melodies came into my head.
I found it very inspiring to be back there."
Gary Moore's
new studio album Close As You Get is out now on Eagle Records