Georgia May Jagger dishes up on her guilty pleasures
It girl, rock royalty and London pin-up tells of her best friend Cara and why she's really a nerd at heart.
Having watched her grow up in the tabloids, it's disconcerting to be face to face with Georgia May Jagger, the model whose lips are almost as famous as her father, Mick's.
We meet in London, in the South Molton Street store of the German jewellery brand Thomas Sabo, and the PR suggests we do the interview on a crescent-shaped velvet banquette. I don't know if you've ever done an interview on a crescent-shaped velvet banquette, but it's a bit awkward. Georgia May, the face of the brand since 2014, places herself in such a position that, even though I am sitting right at the edge, I still feel too close to her. She can probably see my pores.
She, of course, is flawless, even at such close quarters. Her slightly wonky front tooth is charming. And she is charming, too, even when I ask about 'the wedding'. It turns out that she won't answer questions about the surprising March nuptials of her mother Jerry and one Mr Rupert Murdoch, though when I tell her that her mother has never looked happier, she does say: "I know. She's so sweet. She's very happy."
So there's an exclusive: 'Jerry Hall: Very Happy.' I apologise, and explain I'd only been told to avoid questions about her dad, not about her mum.
"Oh, you mean not talk about future Rolling Stones shows," she clarifies. "But you can talk about my dad, like, being my dad."
I don't really want to talk about her dad, to be honest. The patriarchy's seemingly limitless obsession with the Rolling Stones has ensured that Mick has had more light shone on him than Jesus. Jerry, on the other hand, is still something of an enigma. Alas, I never find out whether she has changed her name to Jerry Murdoch. But I hope not. It would make her sound like a pub landlord. "Can you tell me a teeny-tiny thing about the wedding?" I beg, for fear of being fired. "What you ate? Chicken?"
"Um," says Georgia.
Within three minutes, I'm loving Georgia, because when I say "you bring an instant London cool to every brand you work with", she starts laughing. "I don't know. I don't think so," she says. "I feel incredibly uncool all the time, because I'm a massive dork."
All beautiful celebrities claim to be dorks, but I play along. In what way is she a dork?
"Um, I dunno. I watched an hour-long documentary this week, about cuttlefish."
That's fairly dorky, I concede.
"Yeah. I'm into, like, weird facts and funny things like that, and I'm not, like, supercool. I'm just happy to chat with everyone." The previous day, she'd been out on a blood-donor drive in Ashford, Kent, as part of her role as an ambassador for the charity DKMS, which encourages people to give blood so that cancer sufferers can find a matching donor. "The great thing I love is that they're not asking for money necessarily - they're asking more for the kindness of strangers."
I have been told to ask some jewellery questions, so I do, and can report that her favourite Thomas Sabo piece is called the Love Bridge, a bracelet which she wears in different colours. She also likes the engraving service.
"It literally takes a minute; you can watch them do it and have whatever you want done." Hers are engraved with 'Josh' (her boyfriend, model and musician Josh McLellan; they've been together five years), 'G-Whizz' (her nickname) and her date of birth (12 January 1992). She says the friendship bracelets would be a good choice for Glastonbury, since "they're really cute and you can wear loads of them".
Is she going to Glastonbury this year? "Yes, with my boyfriend, my friend Posy, and all my siblings. I always go with my siblings."
Tell me a bit about your squad, I say.
She looks appalled.
Does she like the word 'squad'?
I tell her I dislike it, too.
"I don't like any of those words like that," she says. "I'm not a fan of those kinds of hashtags and things. Naff."
So tell me about your friendship circle, I say, and we both laugh.
"Well, I've got all my siblings, obviously - I'm really good friends with them - and I have, you know, Suki and Cara. Suki, I've known since we were in school together. People always say we're model friends, but actually I knew her before that. People are funny about it - they always ask me about my friends assuming all my friends are going to be famous people, and I'm like, well, I could list all my friends right now but you won't know who any of them are, so..."
List some of your friends! "Posy, Alice, Danny Brady, Alex Brownsell ..."
I've heard of Alex Brownsell, I say (she is the founder of cult East End salon, Bleach).
"Yes, she's quite Instagrammable," Georgia says, deadpan.
It must be comforting, I say, having other model friends who understand the pressures of working in the industry.
'Yeah. It's nice. Although now they're becoming more successful doing movies [Cara has just finished filming Kids in Love; Suki is currently filming Churchill], I see them less and less, but it's really nice when we all meet up and hang out. We got to do our Vogue cover last year [they were shot by Mario Testino for the April issue], and that was a big moment, as the three of us had never done anything together before. But I've been seeing Cara a lot more because she's living in Paris.'
Not that Georgia is out all the time drinking cocktails with her squa ... sorry, friendship circle. She would sooner sit in with a takeaway than party for the sake of it. Brought up in Richmond with siblings Elizabeth (32), James (30), and Gabriel (18), she moved to New York in 2010, but has now settled in north London, where she drinks at The Albion (though she still loves her former Richmond local, The Roebuck) and eats at Islington's local Thais, as well as Roka in Charlotte Street.
Her favourite thing to cook at home is slow-roast lamb. "Although I'm trying to eat less meat now. I can also make crispy duck. It's quite easy," she says, catching my doubtful expression. "You've just got to cook it all day, in a really low oven for, like, six hours. It's a waiting game."
Does she have any memories of cooking with her mum?
"Oh, no," she laughs. "My mum only learned how to cook five years ago. So me and my brother James cooked. We always cook Christmas dinner. Our parents both left home when they were quite young, so I don't think they ..." she trails off. "I mean, to be honest, I don't really think my grandmother cooked either, because she worked nights. She was a librarian at a university. So neither of them really cooked, but my brother's a super-foodie, so he inspired me."
I ask what on earth made Jerry decide to learn to cook five years ago, at the age of 54.
"It might have been longer ago than that, but I think she's got to the point now where she's quite good. She can do roast chicken and stuff." Lucky Rupert.
It goes without saying that Georgia is a juice fan. "I don't like smoothies, so I have a cold-pressed juicer. I'll do a green juice; cucumber, apple and spinach or something. Sounds horrible, but it's actually quite nice."
She doesn't exercise, though she is trying to get into yoga. "I was always a bit bad with sports and stuff as a kid. I think people assume that all models are working out in the gym, but I'm really not that kind of person. I find it quite boring. I carry my suitcase around a lot, though. I drag it up and down."
So she has one really buff, worked-out arm?
"I literally do!"
She says her role models are "my grandma, who passed away a couple of years ago [Jerry's mother, Marjorie, died in 2013 aged 87]".
"I really look up to older people, and I like to take wisdom from my uncles, aunts, parents and grandparents. My grandma fell in love and married again later in life, so I always thought that was really inspirational; that it didn't always need to be that you settle down with one person and that's it." And there, quite inadvertently, Georgia gives away more about her mother's nuptials than whether they ate chicken. You can find love at any age: that's what your elders teach you. And I, in turn, found love on a crescent-shaped banquette.