Holly Willoughby: Three children just feels like a good number
New baby, new TV show ... and Holly Willoughby's taking it all in her stride, the presenter tells Jeananne Craig
As a busy mum-of-three - including a six-month-old baby - Holly Willoughby is grateful for any "me time" she can get. So when she lands in the make-up chair for her new Saturday night prime time show Play To The Whistle, it's a chance for some much-needed pampering.
"You go in and say, 'Can you just pluck my eyebrows please?', and things like that. I leave there feeling slightly normal again," says the presenter, who's on maternity leave from This Morning after giving birth to son Chester in September.
There's also a chance for a drink in the green room when filming wraps on the sports-themed comedy panel show, in which two teams (captained by footballer Frank Lampard and comedian Bradley Walsh) go head-to-head to prove their sporting prowess.
But big nights out are few and far between for the Sussex-raised star, who is also mum to Harry, who turns six in May, and four-year-old Belle.
"It's just not worth it. It's fun at the time, and then the next day you go, 'Oh, I can't do it', it makes it all so much harder," Willoughby (34) confesses with a laugh.
These days, she's more likely to settle down with a cup of tea to watch pal Phillip Schofield on This Morning (although she and Schofield, who she first presented with in 2006 on Dancing On Ice, did enjoy a boozy lunch recently).
The former teen model, who cut her broadcasting teeth in children's television, had assumed becoming a mum for the third time would be "like falling off a log".
"But honestly, (Chester) felt like my first. He had really bad reflux and a tongue-tie (a tight piece of skin at the bottom of the tongue which restricts movement) when he was first born, which really affected his feeding."
Play To The Whistle sees Willoughby working once again with her TV producer husband, Dan Baldwin. The pair met in 2004 on the set of Ministry Of Mayhem, the Saturday morning show which gave Willoughby her big break, and wed in 2007.
"I was so lucky to meet Dan when I did. I was quite young but it just means you get longer with him. We had time before we had our first child, but we were ready to have children quite early," says Willoughby.
Willoughby has no plans to expand her brood further.
"Since Chester's come along, the family feels in a good place. Three just feels like a good number - we're very happy with what we have."
In the Willoughby-Baldwin home, football is on "constantly", but despite her sporty new show, Willoughby isn't a huge fan. "I don't want people to be put off by the fact that Play To The Whistle is a sports panel show if they don't like sport, because actually, it's just entertaining. It's a good fun show for everybody," she says.
There's also more Surprise Surprise! in the pipeline, with a new series of the ITV tear-jerker set to air this summer. With so many heartstring-tugging tales on the ITV show, waterproof mascara is "a must", says Willoughby, who describes herself as "one of life's criers".
Having achieved so much by her mid-30s, Willoughby is clearly driven. But she insists it's important to appreciate the here and now.
"Yes, it's good to have ambition, but it's really important to appreciate where you are at that moment. Otherwise you never live in the now."
Play To The Whistle, ITV, Saturday, 10pm