Sinn Fein councillor slams Orangemen toilets

By Victor Gordon
Saturday, 27 September 2008

A ditrict council in Co Armagh is spending too much to help Orangemen ‘spend a penny’, a Sinn Fein councillor has claimed.

Cllr Mary Doyle from Armagh City and District Council wants the £10,000 set aside for portable public loos each year to be re-routed to other council facilities. The main drain on the toilet flush fund is the County Armagh annual Twelfth demonstration, with seven of the county’s 11 district situated within the area served by the Armagh council.

The county demonstration is alternated among the 11 Orange districts in County Armagh each year, the other four being in the Craigavon Borough Council area (Portadown and Lurgan) and in Newry and Mourne (Bessbrook and Newtownhamilton).

Said Ms Doyle: “I raised the issue with the council this week and discovered there isn’t really a policy on providing portable loos. It seems to date from a cosy arrangement some years ago between council officers and the organisers of parades. Most of the money goes on Orange demonstrations and loyalist band parades and this is disproportionate to the nationalist and republican section of the population.”

It is understood that the county demonstrations require at least 50 portable toilets and these are provided and serviced by private companies with Armagh council providing the finance. The seven Orange district falling within the council area are - Richhill, Tandragee, Loughgall, Armagh, Killyleagh, Markethill and Keady.

A spokesman for the County Armagh Grand Lodge said: “We understand that Armagh council finances the portable toilets and we appreciate that. We also believe that portable loos are provided for events like the Tandragee 100 and the St Patrick’s Day parade in Armagh city, but it’s up to each individual Orange district what arrangements are made.

“Newry and Mourne District Council has always been very co-operative in the Bessbrook and Newtownhamilton demonstrations and that is deeply appreciated. We understand that Craigavon Borough Council does not pay for portable toilets.”

This was confirmed by a spokesman for the Portadown District who said: “We have to organise and pay for them ourselves, and we do that through a private company. It’s a specialised service and it’s done very expertly, but the council pays no part.”

A spokeswoman for Armagh and City and District Council confirmed that Ms Doyle had asked for a policy to be established on the provision of portable toilets and this would evolve in due course.

Armagh City and District Council will be amalgamated with Craigavon and Banbridge councils in 2011 to form the new Armagh City and Bann District Council.

i think all comments below are taken out of context. mary doyle is not attacking the twelth she is just stating that there should be a policy before this money is spent so that it can be accounted for

Posted by Jack | 16.10.08, 12:35 GMT

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What a load of ....

Posted by dave | 29.09.08, 00:29 GMT

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these Orange parades and bonfires cost the taxpayers too much money also the harm the bonfires do to the environment and peoples health is not acceptable.

Posted by Jane | 28.09.08, 22:52 GMT

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Mary Doyle must be correct as is always the case with SF!

Posted by robbo | 28.09.08, 19:16 GMT

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Heavens help us. Most of the aul fellas at the orange parades will be incontinent,(incontinent Mary ,not living on the continent to escape lovely people like yourself). Incontinence can be caused by fear and /or intimidation which most of the aul lads have suffered from for some 30 odd years. Well done Mary another blow for the cause(wet pants amongst the elderly)

Posted by johnno | 28.09.08, 11:59 GMT

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The more things change, the more things stay the same. Whilst Laurel may say to Hardy, "that's another fine mess you've got me into", it sounds as though Craigavon is saying to Armagh "we know the Shinners may no longer be sitting on the bog (or is it bogisde) but are still defecating everywhere"!!!

Posted by CHRISTOPHER LUKE | 27.09.08, 19:07 GMT

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I thought that Sinn Fean and the DUP were working together towards a harmonious enviroment and a bright future.
It appears they are working towards a bright future as long as it isn't an Orange future.
I thought after the GFA we all were going to respect each others culture and identity and live happy ever after in a non sectarian ,non racial non bigotted Alice in wonderland.

Posted by steve douglas | 27.09.08, 15:39 GMT

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Just because they would rather do it on the street it doesn't mean we ALL want to. Would she RATHER we urinated on the street and let them clean up afterwards? I'll bet she would have something to gripe about if she had to.

Posted by CannuckCol | 27.09.08, 15:26 GMT

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How very childish! If Sinn Fein can't find anything better to do, I am sure the local electorate will think of something.

Posted by Centaur | 27.09.08, 15:22 GMT

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Well I never,how absolutely petty and absurd.I cant wait to hear the next piece of bunk to come out of SF mouths.Really bright people.

Posted by Robert Boyd | 27.09.08, 13:18 GMT

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What was that ?
Sinn Fein councillor slams door on Orangemen's toilets? Well they'll just have to wait til they get home then.

Posted by T.J.McClean | 27.09.08, 11:00 GMT

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