Politics replaces violence but old allegiances remain

Our poll shows nationalists see the Assembly as a staging post on the road to Irish unity, writes David McKittrick

Tuesday, 16 March 2010

Perhaps the most striking finding in the Belfast Telegraph poll is the majority of Catholics who say they would vote to leave the UK and become part of a united Ireland.

That figure — at 69% rising to more than three-quarters among younger Catholics — is surprising in that it is higher than most opinion poll findings over the years. It seems to show the Catholic aspiration for unity is stronger than ever.

This is in spite of advances within Northern Ireland which have put their representatives, Sinn Fein and the SDLP, into government at Stormont. It is also in spite of the severe economic setbacks which have seen the Republic of Ireland's former prosperity replaced by stringent belt-tightening.

It is true a quarter of Catholic respondents say they would vote to remain in the UK, a figure that goes up among those aged 65 and over. Perhaps that reflects a certain anxiety about their pensions in uncertain times. It is also true a majority of Catholics think the south's economic difficulties have made a united Ireland less likely. Nonetheless, the figure of 69% who would vote for departure from the UK will generate debate. The poll's findings may indicate that many agree with the recent Sinn Fein formulation that the Good Friday Agreement is an accommodation, not a settlement. The sense which emerges from between the lines of the poll is that many Catholics regard the Assembly as worthwhile, but not permanent. Even before the Assembly many reforms were put in place over decades, making changes so far-reaching that nationalist claims of anti-Catholic discrimination — once frequent — are now rare.

Yet according to the poll, economic, social and political betterment has not been accompanied by any lessening of the strength of national allegiance among either Catholics or Protestants. Furthermore, very few on either side seem to deviate from the nationality which they inherit, along with their religion at birth. Just 8% of Catholics describe themselves as British while just 4% of Protestants see themselves as Irish.

Those most attached to their Britishness are older Protestants who in the poll achieved rare statistical unanimity, a full 100% of them stressing its importance to them.

That remarkable result is however surpassed in political significance by the figure of 69% of Catholics who would vote for unity.

A straw poll of a few nationalists — as highly unscientific as the opinion poll is scientific — produced answers which highlighted both a growth in confidence and a fall in violence. One professional woman, a nationalist who has a distaste for republicanism, said: “I always thought the number in favour of unity was artificially low and that was because people thought it could only come about with blood and violence.’’ A republican said: “There's greater confidence among most nationalists in expressing their identity of Irishness.”

A west Belfast businessman was in agreement, saying in spite of the southern recession, northern nationalists had much pride in Irishness and were more willing to express it. “They are now less inhibited — you can aspire without fear of violence.”

The peace process has brought a much less violence and much more politics. But the telling snapshot provided by this poll is that, while there is much more compromise, the underlying differing allegiances are much what they always were.

As for the future, a statistical coincidence resulted when people were asked where they thought Northern Ireland would be in 2021.

A majority of Catholics thought it would be in a united Ireland while a majority of Protestants thought it would still be in the UK. But when all the totals were added up the outcome, at 42% for each, was a draw. Once again there was no real sense of agreement; but for once there was, entirely accidentally, some semblance of balance.

I wish to add (see my other post), having lived in not only the US, too I have resided in Scotland (Stirling), I was happy to live in a Country seeking more autonomy, I had no problem with Alex Salmond (SNP), and despite being English gave him my vote, why you may ask, because I believe he worked hard for all of us in Scotland. I see no reasons within 2010, why division should exist. I only see Asians in London in my area, I have no complaint with mosques or temples, live and let live. What is important is peoples quality of life, I knew Floridians (while resident in Jacksonville Fla), who disliked northerner's (the old US north/south divide), but considered themselves ALL Americans, well we're all Europeans, we ALL belong to the EU. For what it's worth I feel the days of Britain are numbered, I feel that in the future all countries may just become member states with one President of the EU taking more of a significant role than today.

Posted by tictactaylor | 16.03.10, 21:56 GMT

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I hope sincerely that 'the troubles' are now in the past, it took me to move to the US (but now back in the UK) before I could enjoy and understand St Patrick's Day. I think people of all different origins, faith and background make a society of interest (take the US, a total mix). Having been a Mormon living in Salt Lake City, and English, I had to learn a lot. The first thing was just how glad at times I was to hear an Irish accent, as missed at times Europe. I had in the US Catholic and Protestant, both migrants from Northern Ireland, neighbors of each other who in the US had NO problems (well apart from complaining about how many of their tax dollars were spent on 'needless' things by the City). Thanks America, for giving me an introduction to Northern Ireland(through my former neighbors), a beautiful place that I hope to visit one day soon!

Posted by tictactaylor | 16.03.10, 21:32 GMT

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In 1970 the Unionist Party Annual Conference passed a motion calling for integration of the schools. Speaking in support of the motion, a Mr Ferguson said "The State is being undermined in one third of its schools. Catholic education means nationalist education."

Does integrated education mean unionist education?

Posted by John O'Brien | 16.03.10, 19:17 GMT

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Fred D.

Nonsense. Perhaps we should all just go to state-controlled schools and learn how to be "british", would that solve your problem?

There's no middle way. One institution has to control education in order for it to be funded. Even despite horrendous cases of abuse, I still insist that the catholic church has the most history and experience of education - which is why its schools and universities have produced some of the greatest minds in history.

I would actually prefer to have protestant churches have more of a say in "controlled" schools than to have the british government - or any government - take up the mantle of education in order to produce good little citizens.

Posted by John | 16.03.10, 15:49 GMT

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Fred D:

I couldn't agree more with you. There's nothing more to say on the matter that you haven't already said.

Posted by Conal | 16.03.10, 15:44 GMT

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This polarization of the vote will continue as long as there is segregated schooling.

Catholics learn about being Irish and Protestants learn about being British and neither learn anything of substance about the other.

Posted by Fred D. | 16.03.10, 14:04 GMT

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