Belfast Telegraph

The age old problem of trying to obtain a refund

By Paul Gosling

Question: My parents are both disabled and retired.

They ordered two mobility scooters from Virgo Healthcare for £4,600 last March. They quickly discovered they were unable to use them, so they contacted Virgo Healthcare, which agreed to a full refund and collected the scooters on April 27. Since then, no refund has been supplied. KB

Answer: At about the time you contacted us last year, Virgo Healthcare ceased trading. This followed a BBC programme which alleged that Virgo Healthcare systematically mis-sold disability products.

Had your parents paid by credit card, we would have been optimistic that they would have recovered their losses, as credit suppliers are jointly liable for the supply of goods. Your parents instead paid by Visa debit card - which provides a more limited guarantee. You state that the reason why your parents rejected the mobility scooters was that they did not conform to the description provided by Virgo Healthcare.

However, your parents merely said at the time that they were unable to use the scooters. We have spent several months trying to persuade Lloyds, as issuer of your parents' Visa debit cards, to accept that the goods were mis-sold and on this basis that the Visa guarantee should apply.

Lloyds adamantly refuses to request a Visa chargeback. We believe that Lloyds should have sought a chargeback, rather than insist that it was debarred from doing so because your elderly parents did not initially fully explain why they had rejected the scooters.

Lloyds states: "Regrettably, the fact the company has ceased to trade has no bearing on the Visa chargeback rules and I am sorry to inform you, after further investigation, our position remains the same. The chargeback rules are determined by Visa and can only be applied if the goods are damaged or not as described.

You have already stated the scooters were not damaged and the reason your parents wished to return them was because they were not able to use them. The chargeback rules will also not apply if the goods were delivered but then returned."

Hertfordshire Trading Standards has advised you to pursue the matter with the Financial Ombudsman - we agree. Trading standards officers in Derbyshire, where Virgo Healthcare was based, confirm that the company has ceased trading, but believe there are no assets left in the business against which your parents might recover their losses.

Question: We took my father on holiday to Egypt with Page -amp; Moy. It was supposed to be a holiday of a lifetime after he was widowed. We picked Page -amp; Moy because the hotels in its brochure appeared better than others, and we thought it would be worth paying the extra cost.

But there were many problems - the hotels were in poor condition, the English guide was unhelpful and did not know much about Egypt, there were far too many people on the trip so we couldn't all get into rooms/tombs or hear the local guide. When I complained, Page -amp; Moy only offered me a £150 refund in vouchers, despite me asking for one third of the cost to be repaid. AP

Answer: Page & Moy apologises for your disappointment, but says that 95% of holidaymakers on this tour rated it as excellent and 94% said they would recommend it to a friend. However, future similar holidays will now be limited to a maximum number of 25 guests and tour guides must now be people with expert local knowledge and who live locally.

Page -amp; Moy has converted the refund offer from vouchers to a cash refund, but is not willing to increase the level of compensation. The total cost of your holiday was £1,650 for your party - you do not believe that the £150 refund represents a reasonable level of compensation. Page -amp; Moy is a member of ABTA, the Association of British Travel Agents, which operates a dispute resolution scheme. We recommend that you pursue your complaint through ABTA.

I recently applied for a bank account with First Direct. Initially I was warmly received by them, but then I found there was a problem with my Experian credit report. This was because I was wrongly shown as not being on the electoral register - a mistake rectified two years ago. LR

Experian says that your credit report correctly shows you as being on the electoral register and this is not the reason for any problems you have with First Direct. The agency suggests you purchase a copy of your credit reference report - which can be obtained for £2 - that should enable you to determine where any problems actually lie.