Def Leppard's Joe Elliott: We had tough things to deal with when we were making Hysteria
Def Leppard are celebrating more than three decades since their acclaimed record Hysteria with a UK tour. Frontman Joe Elliott tells Joe Nerssessian about the turbulent three years it took to make that record, reveals his dislike for rap and explains why he calls noisy internet fans "Doritos boys"
One needs to take a tactical approach when interviewing Def Leppard frontman Joe Elliott. Not because he's a difficult interviewee who offers awkward answers or shrugs at certain questions. No, with Elliott it's almost the opposite.
Ask him a question and it's quite possible you won't be asking another one for almost 10 minutes. So spending 20 minutes with a man who has led one of rock's most enduring and influential bands is an interesting task.
Wearing a tight black T-shirt, he removes his sunglasses as he sits behind a table at the Gibson Guitar Studio in London's West End. He's here to talk about the band's catalogue eventually arriving on streaming services.
For Elliot, who used to take a suitcase full of CDs and DVDs with him on tour, it's about time.
It was a long process though. Each song had to be remastered and the 58-year-old was heavily involved.
He sat in the studio with the band's sound engineer, Ronan McHugh, listening to almost every track before they were ready to be put out.
Elliott explains all of this in response to a query on why the band had chosen now to join Spotify and the like. His answer includes the intriguing analogy: "Imagine this room is Def Leppard and everybody's out there watching what we're doing. Imagine we close the curtains, we're still here doing stuff, but you just can't see us anymore."
Asked what he thinks of streaming services and playlist culture's impact on modern music, he launches, full-throttle, into a lengthy response in which it becomes clear he is not fully aware of the huge effect it has had. "This is a learning curve for me," he openly admits. "People have been hitting the forward button since we had listening stations.
"We can't stop people doing that. People do whatever people do. I'm not worried about it because it's not going to affect the way I write songs in the future, and we can't do anything about songs we've written in the past.
"For us, it's art and if you don't like it, then don't buy it."
Keen to emphasise his point again, Elliott attempts another interesting analogy.
"Let's imagine there's a painting on that wall that I've just done and you come in and say, 'I really like it, but can you redo this bottom bit'? No. If you don't like it, don't buy it."
It sparks an interesting conversation about the music Elliott listened to as a kid in which he reels off Bowie, Bolan and Slade as inspirations. He thinks of contemporary music as he did back then. "There's good and bad. There was plenty of s**t music then, too."
But one genre which gets his specific wrath is rap. "I just don't like it," Elliot says. "Anyone can stand there and talk. My mother could do that. There's talent in the writing and the expression and all that kind of stuff, but it's just not my thing."
As well as their arrival on Spotify and the like, Elliot and co have also announced a UK tour as well as a tour with Journey in the US.
Of course, that will mean a triumphant homecoming for the band's Northern Irish guitarist, Vivian Campbell. The Lisburn-born star is set to appear alongside fellow band members at the SSE Arena in Belfast this December.
Campbell last performed in the city last November when he was honoured with the Oh Yeah Legend Award at a special event at Mandela Hall.
The musician has celebrated 25 years with Def Leppard and has also been a member of Whitesnake, Dio and Thin Lizzy.
"I've been very fortunate that my life's work has also been my passion," he said at the time.
In 2013, Campbell revealed that he'd been diagnosed with Hodgkin's Lymphoma, but told this newspaper that throwing himself into his music had helped him cope with it. "I think I would have succumbed to the cancer if I had stayed at home and convalesced - which a lot of people wanted me to do, like the guys in Def Leppard. You want people to attend to their illnesses, but no-one knew better than me how to deal with it...my work was cathartic."
Meanwhile, Elliott has just arrived back from the States, where he had been doing five days' press with Journey's Neal Schon. "We're Cheech and Chong," he says.
"It was like Morecambe and Wise, hysterical."
The UK tour is celebrating the band's 1987 acclaimed Hysteria record, which dominated charts and is the 51st best-selling album of all time in the US.
Hysteria came at a pivotal point for the band; it was the last to feature guitarist Steve Clarke before his death and Leppard's first since drummer Rick Allen's 1984 car crash which left him with one arm.
Released amid a whirlwind of media furore, the album charted at Number One in the US and UK, despite being plagued by delays as the band experimented with emerging and exciting production equipment. Recording had originally begun before Allen's car crash and it's a time Elliott remembers vividly.
"The world changed while we were making it," he says. "We kept updating the record to accommodate the change. The 80s were a very creative time period. It wasn't the writing, we had that down because we had all our 70s heroes to reference, but when it came to production, it was."
Last year, Iron Maiden's Bruce Dickinson titled his autobiography, What Does This Button Do?, which Elliot describes as his mantra during the making of Hysteria. The band spent hours rewiring machines, turning them inside out, endless experimentation.
"We were trying to make something that no one else has ever done, so of course you're going to hit a brick wall every now and again, more often than not really," he says.
"We had all this human nature s**t to deal with, too. Steve's decline, which was occurring at the time, Rick's accident. It was tough to deal with, but it brought the humanity out in the band and that went into the record."
The Hysteria tour in December, which comes after the lengthy run in the US with Journey, will include all the big hits, vows Elliott, who is indignant about artists that refuse to perform crowd-pleasers.
He has also coined quite a beautiful term in "Dorito boy" to describe fans who complain on the internet. "Dorito Boy lives with his mum, sits in the basement, eats Doritos and completely slags your set list off, but has never been to a gig.
"That's the guy we never listen to anymore," Elliot says. "Why would we abandon songs that got us into the O2?" he queries. "That's why they're coming.
"I look at The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney or anyone like that... yeah, you wanna play the new stuff, it feeds your soul, but don't abandon the people that are out there. You can't pander the guy who never comes to the gig, but makes a big noise on the internet."
Def Leppard's music is available now across streaming services. The band plays the SSE Arena in Belfast on December 2, with a concert in Dublin the previous night. Tickets on sale now