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Hall rape claim 'memory, not dream'


Veteran broadcaster Stuart Hall is on trial at Preston Crown Court accused of raping two young girls

Veteran broadcaster Stuart Hall is on trial at Preston Crown Court accused of raping two young girls

Veteran broadcaster Stuart Hall is on trial at Preston Crown Court accused of raping two young girls

A woman allegedly raped by paedophile broadcaster Stuart Hall when she was 12 has told a jury she did not dream it up.

She said she had a recurrent "nightmare" which would awaken her but it was a memory of what happened to her.

Hall, who was in his 40s at the time, was said to have forced his tongue in her mouth and repeatedly told her "You're special" as he raped her.

He has already pleaded guilty to indecently assaulting her when she was 13.

The former It's A Knockout presenter claims that, despite that assault, he went on to have a consensual sexual relationship with her in the years that followed.

The alleged victim, Girl B, told Preston Crown Court that she chose to keep that assault and the earlier alleged rape a secret as she visited two BBC studios in Manchester where Hall is said to have raped her again up to the age of 15.

She compared her experiences to that of Jodie Foster, who played a gang rape victim in the film The Accused, the court heard.

Girl B had told a therapist: "I remember watching The Accused... I threw up with the violence. Her pleading for it to stop. That has stayed with me."

The court has heard she was working at a stables at the age of 12 when the TV celebrity - a family friend - turned up unannounced on a motorbike.

He took her to a corner of the stables, pushed her up against the wall and then raped her, she said.

Crispin Aylett QC, defending Hall, asked her: "Might you have seen the defendant arrive on a motorcycle and what you are telling us about it now is something that has come to you in a dream?"

She replied: "You are completely incorrect. It is a memory that I dream about and a very, very vivid memory."

Mr Aylett said: "This incident didn't happen at all."

She said: "It absolutely categorically happened."

Explaining the dreams, she said: "It's a recurring dream I have had all my life. In fact, I would change that word to nightmare.

"It's a memory that haunts me. It wakes me up and it has done many times."

Mr Aylett said: "There are times when you dream things that have never happened."

She replied: "I think, if this had happened to you, you know it would have happened."

Hall, 84, has pleaded not guilty to 20 allegations of rape and indecent assault between 1976 and 1981 against two young girls.

He was jailed last year after he pleaded guilty to 14 offences of indecent assault against 13 different girls, aged nine to 17, at the same court and was jailed for 15 months, subsequently increased to 30 months at the Court of Appeal.

Girl B became interested in a career in television and Hall invited her to his then workplace at the BBC studios in Manchester's Piccadilly.

She later visited another studio at Oxford Road in the city.

Hall is said to have raped her at both locations.

Mr Aylett asked the complainant: "Did you ever say to the defendant 'I would rather not have sex today'?"

She said: "No, it was not a relationship. I did not have a choice. I was not asked. I was not invited to comment."

The barrister went on: "Did you ever do anything or say anything to indicate that you did not want to have sex?"

Girl B replied: "I didn't want it to happen. It did happen.

"I felt guilty. I felt responsible. I felt it was my fault."

She conceded that he did not frighten her and was charming. He would tell her that he loved her and how special she was, she said.

Mr Aylett said: "Did you not rather like that?"

She said: "No, absolutely not then. It was hideous."

Mr Aylett said: "Or now?"

She said: "The whole thing was extremely unpleasant. At that age and at that time you have to get through it the best way you can.

"I made that choice. I did not spend time thinking about anything else apart from just getting on with it and, frankly, surviving it."

She added: "I would say he was very successful at getting what he wanted."

She said she did not specifically ask to go to the BBC.

The court heard that she told the police "everyone at the BBC looked up to him (Hall)".

She said the usual pattern of behaviour from Hall was that they would drink champagne in between him going on screen - him drinking the best part of a bottle.

She said: "Stuart drank a lot. The best part of a bottle of champagne would be a glass for most people."

The court heard that Hall and the complainant went on to have intercourse at a flat.

Mr Aylett asked her if it was the case that they "made love" there rather than at the BBC when it was "more hurried".

Girl B replied: "Made love is just insulting... it was not a relationship.

"We did not ever make love. Certainly not from my side."

The jury was told that Hall and the complainant had discussed their sexual contact after it emerged that the defendant had abused other young girls.

She said: "He said 'You are different, it was not the same with any of the others' and I was 'special'.

"I said 'B ut you have done this to these girls'."

Peter Wright QC, prosecuting, asked the witness: "At any time, has he (Hall) ever apologised to you?"

She replied: "No."

Mr Wright continued: "At the time when there has been any discussion between you in terms of what he had done, what was his reaction or demeanour?"

She said: "In recent times, remorseless."

Earlier, Mr Aylett asked the complainant if she intended to make a claim for compensation in relation to Hall's admitted indecent assault on her.

She replied: "I have given absolutely no thought to making a compensation claim. Getting through this is my first thought."

Mr Aylett said: "You are not ruling it out?"

The witness said: "I am not ruling it in. I don't know what the process is."

Mr Aylett repeated: "You are not ruling it out?"

She replied: "I find it very insulting at this moment in time to answer that question.

"It has taken an awful long time to choose to do this."

One of Hall's 13 victims whom he admitted indecently assaulting last year was next to give evidence. She had been a friend of Girl B in their childhood.

It is said she was abused on the same occasion at a dinner party when Hall indecently assaulted Girl B when she was aged 13.

The woman, now in her late 40s, was "stunned" and "helpless" when Hall targeted her in a bath. As he abused her, he would say "You're beautiful and gorgeous" over and over again, the court heard. She said she confided in Girl B the next morning.

She told the court: "I told her what had happened to me and she told me he had gone into her room and did things to her."

She said she spoke to Girl B's mother about it but she was concerned that her husband would kill Hall if he found out, the jury heard.

She said that after the indecent assault Hall sent a "sort of funny poem" to her and a little paperweight with a prickly fish in it.

She said: "He wanted us to remember what had happened and he sent us a note."

The trial continues on Monday.