Some day, Antrim hurling manager Darren Gleeson is going to hang up on a journalist who asks him how long the journey takes from his home in Portroe, Tipperary to wherever his Antrim team are training.
Thankfully, he's still at the mildly exasperated stage. The time spent driving is no imposition as they start life this week once again in the top flight of hurling, welcoming Clare to an empty Corrigan Park this Sunday.
"It's three and a half hours," he says. For the record.
"You'd live with it. I don't even notice these things. Everyone thinks it is a factor, it's not even a factor.
"I was involved with Tipperary as a player and as a coach. You would have been leaving home at 4pm anyway. You are leaving work maybe at three on training nights. There is not a major difference in it."
Things sure have changed since he was a player and a coach with Tipp. He had gone in with Neal Pedan as the Antrim coach, became manager, and won the Joe McDonagh Cup in his first year in sole charge.
Last year was interrupted by the coronavirus and, like all other counties, Antrim ran off their club Championship first on a round-robin basis. The hurling competition was fought for ferociously and left players battle-hardened and ready for their successful campaign.
The last time any of them played was back on December 13, so there is a huge amount of anticipation mixed in with uncertainty about getting into competitive action.
"Everyone is looking forward to getting back but there is a small bit of trepidation in it, as in 'where are you really at?'" Gleeson points out.
"That's the good thing about getting a couple of challenge games, getting in a few McGurk Cup games or Kehoe Cup, whatever section you are in. They kind of tell you where you are. You kind of half know going into a game.
"So it's a small bit of the unknown, maybe that is an exciting thing for some people. I don't really get that. When you are trying to get a team right, I am not up for that."
After their last outing, many in Antrim took their fair share of offence to the verdict of hurling pundit Donal Óg Cusack, who felt Antrim would be like an ambitious boxer, moving up through the weight divisions without the expertise to match their ambition.
"I actually didn't listen to it. I heard people half-telling me," Gleeson explains.
"Dónal Óg is a pundit. He is going to say things and he is completely entitled to his opinion. He has his own opinion on the day, whoever else was analysing it has their opinion.
"It doesn't have any interest to me. I just look at the result at the end of the game. Results of games, that's all that counts. It's like the scorecard in golf. It's not 'how', it's 'how many.'
"We got to lift the trophy. I won't say we got to go home with the trophy but we got to lift it anyway."
The games will take on a life of their own and the competitive urges will be present.
"There's still going to be the excitement. It's still Division One hurling, when you have a top team coming to Corrigan Park," he adds.
"From an excitement point of view, alright, there might not be the roars or the excitement of a crowd, but it still means something to the county to try and get something out of the game.
"I would love to have the crowd there, but it is what it is. It's amazing, there will be more inside the shopping centres in Belfast, in small spaces, than there will be around pitches on Saturday and Sunday, which is amazing."
Despite that clear-eyed observation, Gleeson has found himself withdrawing all attention from the pandemic.
"I have completely switched off from it. I had been an avid follower of every update and every briefing, north and south.
"But I said it to the players a couple of months ago, 'let's just detach from it'.
"Just work in the present. Control what we can. That's where I have gone. It's not like I am trying not to get involved in the conversation and, of course, no crowds there, if there is 1,000 people in a shopping centre in Belfast then why isn't there 1,000 people spread out in Corrigan Park?"
He continues: "There's a huge amount of emotional energy being wasted on things we cannot control and, from our point of view, we have to focus on having the Antrim players in the best place we can be.
"And that's the only place I can put the energy into. I was an avid follower of every piece of information and now, when it's open, it's open. When the crowds are in, they are in. I just have to concentrate on getting a panel of players, the management team, moving them around the place and getting them in safely."